Comments on: A Quick Chat With OpenShot Creator Jonathan Thomas

By: manny

manny — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:45:00 +0000

awesome i love openshotttt

By: Dan Dennedy

Dan Dennedy — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:17:00 +0000

MLT is modular too and does not require FFmpeg if you just want to use DV (libdv), Ogg Vorbis, various image file formats, and encode to DV. In fact, I made it possible to build a FFmpeg module that only includes the filters (colorspace, deinterlace, resample, scaling) or only includes the codecs/(de)muxers for making a separate add-on package for a different repo. Don’t like those limited options? Well, gstreamer is not that interesting without bad, ugly, or commercial codec packages either. Probably, the most interesting thing it adds is Ogg Theora reading and writing. Considering, MLT is currently weak in reading Ogg Theora through FFmpeg, do not be surprised if I add support for gstreamer in the near future.

By: Alan Pope

Alan Pope — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:35:00 +0000

No, I hadn’t seen that. I went to https://launchpad.net/openshot -> https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers -> https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers/+archive/ppa

It should probably be made more obvious on the launchpad page that this experimental ppa exists. I’ll give it a try.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:30:00 +0000

Are you using the new PPA for 9.10? This PPA is designed to use the default packages in Ubuntu (i.e. FFmpeg, libx264, and Frei0r). Details here:

http://www.openshotvideo.com/2009/11/openshot-ppa-new-experimental-ppa.html

By: Alan Pope

Alan Pope — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:14:00 +0000

I never said screwing up video playback was an issue. I said “I don’t want it screwing with the (working) version of ffmpeg I have installed”. See what happens if I try to install openshot from the ppa… It wants to remove ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, _blender_ and _xvidcap_. I asked the Openshot guys a while ago if they could please fix this. I can’t use openshot until they do.

alan@wopr64:~$ sudo apt-get install openshot
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information… Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libftgl2 libalut0
Use ‘apt-get autoremove’ to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
frei0r-plugins libavcodec-extra-52 libavcodec-unstripped-52 libavformat-extra-52 libavutil-extra-50 libcv1 libcvaux1 libhighgui1 libmlt++2
libmlt-data libmlt1 libsox-fmt-alsa libsox-fmt-base libsox1a libswscale-extra-0 libx264-76 python-mlt
Suggested packages:
libsox-fmt-all openshot-doc
The following packages will be REMOVED
blender ffmpeg ffmpeg2theora libavdevice52 libavfilter0 libavformat52 xvidcap
The following NEW packages will be installed
frei0r-plugins libavformat-extra-52 libavutil-extra-50 libcv1 libcvaux1 libhighgui1 libmlt++2 libmlt-data libmlt1 libsox-fmt-alsa
libsox-fmt-base libsox1a libx264-76 openshot python-mlt
The following packages will be upgraded:
libavcodec-extra-52 libavcodec-unstripped-52 libswscale-extra-0
3 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 7 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
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By: d0od

d0od — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:57:00 +0000

That is not longer an issue, and hasn’t been for some time (the screwing up video playback).

On the FFmpeg side, i would imagine that if the Ubuntu devs approached OpenShot with a eye to sorting that out, a workaround would easily be sorted. Ubuntu are still looking at OpenShot which tells you something…

By: Alan Pope

Alan Pope — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:13:00 +0000

It doesn’t help that (last I looked) Open Shot Video ships with it’s _own_ copy of ffmpeg embedded in. This is reason enough to reject it. The app should rely on the version of ffmpeg in the repository. If there are issues with that version then those issues should be resolved first.

This is the main reason I have not even installed Open Shot Video. I don’t it screwing with the (working) version of ffmpeg I have installed (and which I use).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:06:00 +0000

Just stopping in to say an enthisuastic kind word about OpenShot, and specifically, its development team. I posted two bugs on their Launchpad site earlier this evening (both UI-related, regarding timeline zoom functionality and implementation), and a few minutes ago got a message from Jonathan that he squashed both bugs, and they’ll be in the next version, coming soon!

Jonathan and the OpenShot developers exemplify what I love about Ubuntu, Linux, and open source in general. It’s this kind of open dialog that inspires loyalty and creates a positive community around a project. We should do all we can to support projects like this, so they’re motivated to keep up the good work!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:06:00 +0000

I wish them luck. Donated to the project too. Out of GTK editors – this, right now, is the best one.

By: d0od

d0od — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:26:00 +0000

Which is part of the problem as to why PiTiVi is a moot discussion, too, as any format an end user (who is not a geek) would want to edit in are proprietary and not installed by default.

However, a user is prompted to install codecs for files that won’t play, so i don’t see the difference between prompting to install ugly or bad or ffmpeg.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:58:00 +0000

This is not how it works. There are licensing problems, which gstreamer-based apps work around nicely (due to gstreamer’s modular nature). I have trouble imagining the Ubuntu developers approving ffmpeg into the main repositories, for the same reason they don’t install gst bad/ugly by default, or libdvdcss, or w32codecs, or …

By: Seif Sallam

Seif Sallam — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:24:00 +0000

the the ubuntu UDS they didn’t make a final decision they will still see if PiTiVi be stable enough at the feature freeze so i think there is still a chance. by putting both in Ubuntu Brainstorm with Screen Shot and let people decide. the same way Ubuntu Software Store got changed

By: d0od

d0od — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:48:00 +0000

It’s part of what i love about the open-source community – the gaping gap in “user friendly” video editors was spotted and worked on and now we have some excellent choices to choose from – both of which will/can only get better and better…

By: Peterson EspaÃ§oporto

Peterson EspaÃ§oporto — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:40:00 +0000

Interesting; we once had no nice and easy (and good) “iMovies” for GTK. All of a sudden we have two and they’re both fighting for a place in Ubuntu’s live CD…

Funny =D

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:24:00 +0000

Great interview – OpenShot is indeed awesome. :)