Thunderbird Confirmed as Default Mail App For Ubuntu 11.10

After spending several months in limbo e-mail application Thunderbird has been confirmed as the official e-mail application Ubuntu 11.10.

Mike Conley, the driving force behind integrating Thunderbird with the Ubuntu desktop, shared the news on his blog, writing: -

“[The] first alphas were just to get a sense of how Thunderbird would work as the default client, and to gather feedback.  At a moments notice, Canonical could have backed it out and switched it back to Evolution. But they’ve given their thumbs up, and they’re fully on board.”

What does this mean for you?

Come October and the release of Ubuntu 11.10 Thunderbird will be installed by default. It will boast integration with various elements of the Ubuntu desktop such as Messaging Menu presence, Unity launcher badge and Application Menu support, all out of the box.

Evolution fans don’t need to worry as their preferred application will remain easily installable through the Ubuntu Software Centre.

Congratulations to all involved in the decision, and to Mike Conley espeically for his hard work on integrating the app into Ubuntu.

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  1. Thunderbird on track to be default e-mail app in Ubuntu 11.10
  2. Thunderbird getting some Unity love
  3. How to add Thunderbird to the Ubuntu messaging menu
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  • http://twitter.com/Shuninzo Sébastien Michel

    Good news, I won’t have to install it after a fresh install of Ubuntu :)

  • http://twitter.com/Shuninzo Sébastien Michel

    Good news, I won’t have to install it after a fresh install of Ubuntu :)

  • Anonymous

    Will there be better integration for Thunderbird in Oneiric then? And Firefox?

    • http://anaershadowynomaly.deviantart.com Farran Lee

      As far as I know, there’s a quite a bit of work going in to XUL integration, and Thunderbird is well supported in the messaging menu as well now (or whatever it’s called :P).

    • http://anaershadowynomaly.deviantart.com Farran Lee

      As far as I know, there’s a quite a bit of work going in to XUL integration, and Thunderbird is well supported in the messaging menu as well now (or whatever it’s called :P).

    • http://www.corbindavenport.com/ Corbin Davenport

      I think 12.04 LTS

  • Anonymous

    Will there be better integration for Thunderbird in Oneiric then? And Firefox?

  • https://launchpad.net/~cscarney ~cscarney

    Oh Thunderbird…

    I predict that Ubuntu developers
    will spend scarce development time trying
    to make you work with Ubuntu,
    but their work will be blocked
    on obscure upstream bugs.

    They will ship you in spite of your failings,
    and spend six months fielding bug reports
    from users whose email ignores their font settings.

    In five years you will still have integration issues.
    How much like Firefox you are!

    • http://www.manishsinha.net Manish Sinha

      The point being. Atleast Thunderbird works and is able to handle my 4 inboxes with total 15.4GB data in cache directory without rolling over and dying

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CLU5ZOTFN5KZODOREOPZ27B7Q John Nelson

      One of the worst poems EVAR.

      • https://launchpad.net/~cscarney ~cscarney

        And yet, within this comment thread, one of the best.  Perhaps you should consider lowering your expectations.  (Or just go back to reading proprietary poetry)

    • http://www.corbindavenport.com/ Corbin Davenport

      You’re a poet, and you weren’t even aware of it….crap! Guess not…

    • crazy 2be

      Hella better than the evolution or empihany alternatives.

    • crazy 2be

      Hella better than the evolution or empihany alternatives.

    • crazy 2be

      Hella better than the evolution or empihany alternatives.

  • https://launchpad.net/~cscarney ~cscarney

    Oh Thunderbird…

    I predict that Ubuntu developers
    will spend scarce development time trying
    to make you work with Ubuntu,
    but their work will be blocked
    on obscure upstream bugs.

    They will ship you in spite of your failings,
    and spend six months fielding bug reports
    from users whose email ignores their font settings.

    In five years you will still have integration issues.
    How much like Firefox you are!

  • http://mernen.com/ Daniel

    Evolution isn’t just about email, though. What are their plans for the calendar? Are they bringing a new app or will Thunderbird include an extension?

    • Adrian Abela

      The “Lightning” addon gives Calendar features to Thunderbird. I do hope it’ll be there in default.

    • Anonymous

      I would assume they will bundle lightning with thunderbird at some point, in the same way they already bundle global menu, unity and messaging menu integration extensions in oneiric now.

  • http://mernen.com/ Daniel

    Evolution isn’t just about email, though. What are their plans for the calendar? Are they bringing a new app or will Thunderbird include an extension?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Vincentv.d.Bergh Vincent van den Bergh

    This means 1 less program to remove and to install after an installation of Ubuntu for me. Good decision to replace Evolution since the only benefit it has is exchange support.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Vincentv.d.Bergh Vincent van den Bergh

    This means 1 less program to remove and to install after an installation of Ubuntu for me. Good decision to replace Evolution since the only benefit it has is exchange support.

  • Anonymous

    i love firefox, and i guess i’ll love thunderbird too ;)

  • Anonymous

    i love firefox, and i guess i’ll love thunderbird too ;)

  • Yogotiss .

    I’ve been wondering when this would happen. Firefox is already the default web browser. So why not have Thunderbird and default email app… Super thumbs up!

  • Mike Conley

    Hey – thanks for the write up!

    I have to point out, however, that I have not been alone in this integration work.  None of this would have been possible without the hard work of both Chris Coulson and Andreas Nilsson – both of whom contributed enormously to the integration effort.

    Anyhow, thanks again!

    • Anonymous

      Liked. For the comment AND for the hard work you and the team have done.
      The integration (unity, indicator and global menu) so far works very well in oneiric…

      • Anonymous

        Just wondering, do you know what the immediate plans are regarding lightning?

        • Mike Conley

          I’m currently working on an EDS calendar provider for Lightning, which allows users to manipulate their pre-existing Evolution calendars.

          Lightning integration with EDS was not one of the deal-breakers for this cycle, but I’m plugging away at it.  We’ll see how far it gets!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FX5ITOLLHVNOY673XBRGCKF3DI Freddi

            Great work! Will Thunderbird also blend better with GTK themes?

          • Mike Conley

            Andreas Nilsson has been working on a new theme to make Thunderbird fit in more with Ubuntu Oneiric – I don’t have the link on me right now, but it should be bundled with Thunderbird on Oneiric by default by the time October rolls around.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FX5ITOLLHVNOY673XBRGCKF3DI Freddi

            Specifically I was thinking about the transparent tooltips. Has been reported here:
            https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408284

            https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/822295

          • http://twitter.com/conorsulli Conor O Sullivan

            Its looking very sleek! http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=172#comments 

            That is the designers blog, Now compare the ubuntu polish to that of the windows aero implementation and you really see how well the ubuntu solid theme shines through in comparison to the slightly garish aero glass looks here:

            http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=134

            Of course things may change… but so far I know which one is winning! ;-p

          • http://twitter.com/pawiecki Paweł

            Can Thunderbird now work in the background? I mean without GUI just being active in the background?

          • http://profiles.google.com/danteashton Danté Ashton

            Why does every email application I  use INSIST on constantly running? Why not a daemon that simply checks and notifies, before bringing up the rest of the program? *sigh*

          • daas88

            Is there any way to ease the migration from Evolution calendars to Thunderbird? An assistant or something?

          • daas88

            Is there any way to ease the migration from Evolution calendars to Thunderbird? An assistant or something?

    • Anonymous

      Yep. Thanks for all your hard work to get this through. You have made the right choice.

    • Anonymous

      Please give us an easy way of exporting our emails. Something like the smartsave extension, that will actually work with UTF-8 file & folder names…

  • Anonymous

    A great move. Better integration with Thunderbird will be a great experience. And the new “Conversations” plugin with Thunberbird 5 to go along with this will make it even better.

    For me, Evolution just wasn’t as responsive as I would have liked it to be. 

  • Anonymous

    I would say this is the best ubuntu news I’ve heard lately.
    I switched from kmail to thunderbird in KDE because I was sick of the akanadi crap causing me problems.
    In the last week I have also switched from KDE to unity to test everything out for the likely permanent switch come 11.10 so the install will already be setup with my favoured web browser AND email.

    So when it comes to installing oneiric, it will become the first ever OS I have installed where I don’t have manually install ANYTHING after install.
    A goal of mine for some time…

    I use lightning but I don’t NEED calendar integration but since they are working on it anyway, things can only get better :)

  • http://twitter.com/Maupertus Matthijs v. Wolferen

    sudo apt-get remove thunderbird && sudo apt-get evolution

    • http://twitter.com/om26er Omer Akram

      E: Invalid operation evolution :-P

    • http://www.manishsinha.net Manish Sinha

      That command wont work

      • Anonymous

        Kinda like Evolution itself!  HAH!  I slay me…

        *ahem*

        I’ll go back to my corner now.

    • http://profiles.google.com/omgitsadammm Adam Martinez

      Haha, fail

    • Marco Ceppi

      I’ll be running apt-get install evolution, but I agree. Evolution has worked brilliantly for me since day one I can’t fathom a reason to switch :)

    • http://twitter.com/cyrildz cyrildz

      E: The system doesn’t want to evolve yet. It is not your duty to decide when the System need an Evolution. Just wait for Gnome 3 to take the decision.

  • Marc-André Appel

    What I am using since ages becomes now standard in Ubuntu after I moved off to Debian Testing… that is called timing !

  • http://www.facebook.com/cgermann1 Chad Germann

    Kiss Clock / Calander indicator integration good bye

    • Anonymous

      Lightning.

      Alternatively I think many people would prefer a separate calendar and email application. Eg, if you use Webmail, you don’t want to have an entire email suite as a calendar, and if you just want email, calendar is unwanted bloat.

  • http://www.redtube.com ActionParsnip

    Either will get removed here. Webmail all the way. If there is a web UI backend to Thunderbird like the Web UI to transmission etc then I WILL use it. I have been looking for an email client with web UI otherwise I’ll be sticking to webmail (Trying to get my fileserver to do more)

    • Anonymous

      Have you tried Roundcube?
      http://roundcube.net/

    • Anonymous

      Have you tried Roundcube?
      http://roundcube.net/

      • http://www.redtube.com ActionParsnip

        Cool, will that allow access to Gmail? Thanks for the reply btw :D

  • http://g105b.myopenid.com/ Greg

    Has Thunderbird fixed its calendar yet? I remember moving/dragging events broke everything

    • Anonymous

      I’m not using lightning as extensively as I used to, but so far I didn’t have any problems in natty. Even with google-calendar integration it seems to work flawlessly.

      I’m using thunderbird 3.1.11 and lightning 1.02b, if this is of any help for you.

    • Anonymous

      I’m not using lightning as extensively as I used to, but so far I didn’t have any problems in natty. Even with google-calendar integration it seems to work flawlessly.

      I’m using thunderbird 3.1.11 and lightning 1.02b, if this is of any help for you.

  • Aeraj Rehman

    I hope there is a fixed integration for the “Thunderbird Unity Unread Mail” add-on. It seemed to have been broken ever since I upgraded to (not voluntary) Thunderbird version 5. I wish I knew how to fix it myself and make it work, because I love that add-on so much.

    • Mike Conley

      Aeraj:

      Hey – that add-on has been re-written, and will be bundled with Thunderbird in Oneiric.  So you’ll have your unread count in your launcher soon!

      -Mike

      • Aeraj Rehman

        Thanks Mike. That is amazing news. I thought the touch of unread mail display in the unity bar made Thunderbird and Unity desktop work with each other in extreme compatibility. It took the whole experience of checking mail to a different level. Thanks for the updated news that it is coming back!

  • Anonymous

    Can Thunderbird invoke SpamAssassin to scan downloaded email yet? Evolution does that, but I couldn’t get it to work in Thunderbird, and TB’s own spam detection isn’t as good as SA.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t think SpamAssassin was supposed to be used with end mail clients? I use it on our mail server to directly scan all incoming and outgoing emails that go through the server itself.

  • http://www.corbindavenport.com/ Corbin Davenport

    Yes! Yes! YYEEESSS!!!

  • Not Available

    That’s why I don’t bother with POP/IMAP clients anymore. gmail web interface is good enough and this makes it one less thing to worry about when switching or upgrading distros

    • Anonymous

      Or reading emails on different computers / phones / tablets. Although IMAP allows the same.

    • Anonymous

      GMail is fine if you only have 1 email account, or all of your other accounts support forwarding.

      What would make GMail brilliant is if you could connect to another imap account from it.

    • http://twitter.com/pachydyptes Pachydyptes

      I check all my Gmail accounts through Thunderbird.
      A) I’d hate to have to log in and out of each account all day long.
      B) I don’t like having all my emails ONLY in someone else’s cloud, what happens on the day Google reveals they are the Anti-Elvis?
      C) IMAP makes it a breeze when updating distros.

  • http://twitter.com/tonelorenz Tony Lawrence

    I never really got on with Evolution, finding it slow, slow, slow. I realise that it has had better integration in to the system than Thunderbird, but frankly the bird has always been fast and sufficient for my needs. I’m hoping that  a fuller integration of Thunderbird will happen now its default. Good news for us bird lovers.

  • https://launchpad.net/~rafalcieslak256 rc

    That’s it! I’m switching to Thunderbird™!

  • http://twitter.com/FrankBaumeister Frank Baumeister

    I prayed for years and now the God of floss has heard me. ;-)

    • Anonymous

      Mark Shuttleworth??

  • http://slimshady91.myopenid.com/ Tarek

    Best news ever ! 

  • http://twitter.com/zc456 Squeaks

    This is awesome news!

  • Anonymous

    What will happen to Exchange support and a Calendar like you have in Evolution? It would be nice to see upcoming events when you click on the clock on the upper panel.

  • Anonymous

    What will happen to Exchange support and a Calendar like you have in Evolution? It would be nice to see upcoming events when you click on the clock on the upper panel.

  • http://www.handymanreality.com Don Moody

     If ubuntu wants to keep up with Apple I think they might want to think about going back to the basics and forget the switching of allegiances for every release. i.e. OpenOffice.org, gnome, and now evolution.

    Since adopting Ubuntu, 4 years back, I notice that the integration of simple things like a useful notepad,  calendar, invoice capability, and, simple back ups are a nightmare for the regular user.

    Regular users simply want to get on to developing their own digital lives rather than becoming a developer just to use the OS. Users want to give support not become developers.

    I notice that Apple has had these basic applications working smoothly all along. And, people really wonder why they are the top?

    My brand new iomega cloud drive has back up programs integrated for OS’s other than Linux which is the operating system it is based upon. Very sad, so many options with lunux and so few real leaders in applications to support. I’m not surprised that they could not sort out which application to back.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love the intentions of “Open Source”, though, I do not applaud the lack of simple EFFECTIVE work flow integration for the basic things like note taking, calendar & finance. Don’t feel bad Microsoft dropped the ball on the notepad and backups too.

    As to the question of email & calendar,  I dumped Thunderbird/Lightning long ago. Google Gmail kicks the crap out of all of the email programs I have used.

    The real beauty behind “Open Source” is that , if need be, you can develop your own way, the curse is that so many choose to. If there was more loyalty Ubuntu & Android could really become contenders for Apple users.

    • http://twitter.com/toetjesman henk de vries

      i guess elementary os is better for you

      • http://www.handymanreality.com Don Moody

        Thanks, I just love being insulted. Do you feel better now buttercup?

        • http://twitter.com/toetjesman henk de vries

          it’s not an insult elementary is a real os

          http://elementaryos.org/

          • http://www.handymanreality.com Don Moody

            OUCH! 

            I guess that makes me the “Buttercup” for being so quick to judge. Thank you for your most kind suggestion and link.

          • http://www.handymanreality.com Don Moody

            OUCH! 

            I guess that makes me the “Buttercup” for being so quick to judge. Thank you for your most kind suggestion and link.

      • http://www.handymanreality.com Don Moody

        Thanks, I just love being insulted. Do you feel better now buttercup?

  • http://twitter.com/davbren David Gross

    All it means to me is a complete lack of exchange support…

    • Anonymous

      Is http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ of any use to you?

    • Ray

      as I have never used exchange I don’t know what support and features are required but there is this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-microsoft-exchang/   if it helps at all… 

  • http://www.sk3tchy.com/ Andey

    thunderbird is obviously way better

  • http://sgp.cm/KeithDrummond Keith Drummond

    The only reason I kept Evolution installed was because of the clock/calendar indicator integration. I think there should have been more of a debate over do we need a default mail app and if so then just go for something lightweight and simple like Postler. Post 12.04LTS and the eventual shift to Chrome hopefully this will be given more consideration then.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/C6S22ANL35LHAH27EX43XFQKTQ Klau3

    Canonical Design:
    Thunderbird & Evolution Usability Testing    

    http://goo.gl/1eXRF        

  • Anonymous

    It took a while, but meanwhile the Ubuntu default is approaching my standard setup since approx. Dapper Drake.

    Thunderbird + Banshee instead of Evolution and Rhytmbox. And the integration of both is great! MANY thanks to Mike Conley, at least for the Tunderbird integration!

  • Anonymous

    It took a while, but meanwhile the Ubuntu default is approaching my standard setup since approx. Dapper Drake.

    Thunderbird + Banshee instead of Evolution and Rhytmbox. And the integration of both is great! MANY thanks to Mike Conley, at least for the Tunderbird integration!

  • http://twitter.com/zc456 Squeaks

    Cheers! Hated Evolution mail anyway. Wasn’t Thunderbird default in the older releases?

  • Anonymous

    Evolution is awful, even though it may lack some features. 
    Leave Evolution behind, Novel hasn’t spent hardly any effort evolving Evolution at all, but maybe was ok for their target market of corporate use, which is slow to evolve anyway, so I guess they had no incentive to improve it.
    Evolution, the mail client that didn’t evolve.
    Bring on the Thunderbird.

  • Daniel Foré

    *sigh* You know, I’m concerned for Ubuntu. The example they’re setting for developers is confusing.

    Just look at developer.ubuntu.com for a second. Half of it is about selling PyGTK. And if that’s Ubuntu’s development platform, good! But they’re not sticking to their guns on this.

    PyGTK is the best way to develop the best apps for Ubuntu… however:

    * We ship a few non-GTK apps.
    * We’ve gone out of our way to make non-GTK apps behave like GTK apps.
    * In our own GTK apps, we’ve decided that some GTK components aren’t good enough… stuff like Toolbars.
    * We ship a huge amount of non-python apps.
    * Not even all of the apps we develop ourselves are in python.

    And of course you have to stop and say “Hey well they can’t go and develop every single app in PyGTK right away.” and that’s correct. It’s unfair and unreasonable to expect Canonical to rewrite every app in PyGTK. 

    BUT, I think it’s perfectly fair and reasonable for Canonical to develop *their own apps* in Python and GTK, and to dedicate themselves to moving *closer* to a 100% PyGTK desktop, not farther away.

    #justsaying

    • http://twitter.com/timdavies3 Tim

      I don’t understand how Ubuntu is meant to stand anywhere near both Windows and OSX, which use native code for their applications, when Ubuntu is using interpreted.

      Sure, PyGTK is fine for some things and it’s fine for some commandline stuff, however for large/often-used applications it’s just too slow – especially on lower spec machines.

      A much better alternative would be to look at Vala. It’s developed for Gnome, it runs almost as fast as a regular C application (uses a bit more memory than a regular C app, but it’s minimal and nothing like PyGTK’s memory usage).
      Not only would that put Ubuntu on a level playing field (fast to execute and fast to develop in) – it would put Ubuntu a step above, as it is faster than both ObjC and .Net.

      Huge python fan, mind. I love the language. But it’s just not for graphical stuff, it’s far too slow for that, even if you think it runs fast.

      • http://twitter.com/zc456 Squeaks

        “Windows and OSX, which use native code”

        C# on Windows is interpreted, Obj-C on Mac is native. Just pointing out.

    • http://twitter.com/pachydyptes Pachydyptes

      Wish they’d get behind (compiled) Haskell, and help further develop GHC in the process.

  • Ray

    I have been testing 11.10 since the start and the whole time thunderbird was there it was smooth. there are some tweaks needed and a few extras but I can say that thunderbird + Oneiric has been flawless.

  • Ray

    I have been testing 11.10 since the start and the whole time thunderbird was there it was smooth. there are some tweaks needed and a few extras but I can say that thunderbird + Oneiric has been flawless.

  • Anonymous

    I never understood why people like Thunderbird. It’s just a minimal email client with minimal organizational functionality (calendar) and it’s missing Exchange support. Evolution is richer feature-wise plus in the latest version it’s pretty fast (which was its main problem).

  • Mark Skinner

    it would be good to see better indicator applet integration, when thunderbird closes it doesnt alert of new mails, if it ran a background daemon to monitor your inbox would be cool

  • Anonymous

    Here was my email on evolution/thunderbird issue, some people may be interested in reading it:

    https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05334.html

  • fishears

    Brilliant news! So Ubuntu One contacts integration will follow now?

  • Timo Reimerdes

    I’m still looking forward to postler and the rest of luna.

  • Anonymous

    And what abou nice theming of TB? Where are gnawesome pictures?
    Oh wait, there are sooo many bugs in Unity and Unity 2D that we will not have gnawesome Unity/Ubuntu desktop until at least 14.04 LTS. Maybe if they tripple the manpower and hire David Reveman to finally fix that f*cking Compiz, then they could make it for 12.04…

    • http://twitter.com/zc456 Squeaks

      Sigh… 

    • Anonymous

      I doubt David R would even recognise the compiz code anymore :)
      I do think there are a bit too many issues with compiz+unity.
      Maybe they should have stuck with mutter after all…

    • Anonymous

      I doubt David R would even recognise the compiz code anymore :)
      I do think there are a bit too many issues with compiz+unity.
      Maybe they should have stuck with mutter after all…

  • http://techeverytime.com Ankur

    Great news !! 

  • Mohan

    Awesome now my systems will be free of Evolution and will have Thunderbird installed out of the box!

  • http://twitter.com/pachydyptes Pachydyptes

    Tried making myself use Evolution on a couple of occasions — SOLELY because of the better out-of-the-box integration with Ubuntu.

    But it always crashed on me, and IMAP account setup is not as quickly and intuitive as with Thunderbird. So I’ve always reverted to Thunderbird even though it is not integrated with the indicators and such by default.

    All I’ve ever wanted more with Thunderbird was the indicator integration, so this is good news. I wanted Evolution removed from the Dash as well, but that is less an email client issue and MUCH more of the overall configurability-of the-Dash issue.

  • http://twitter.com/pachydyptes Pachydyptes

    Tried making myself use Evolution on a couple of occasions — SOLELY because of the better out-of-the-box integration with Ubuntu.

    But it always crashed on me, and IMAP account setup is not as quickly and intuitive as with Thunderbird. So I’ve always reverted to Thunderbird even though it is not integrated with the indicators and such by default.

    All I’ve ever wanted more with Thunderbird was the indicator integration, so this is good news. I wanted Evolution removed from the Dash as well, but that is less an email client issue and MUCH more of the overall configurability-of the-Dash issue.

  • Brian Oswald

    Hallelujah! I’ve been waiting for this since I first started using Ubuntu. I always thought of Thunderbird as the perfect supplement to Firefox, and it blew my mind that it was never included by default. Evolution is nice, but seems very clunky and past-its-time. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/grasianids Grasiani Santos

    Hey, I think evolution is superior to thunderbird in backup and restore. Evolution generates one single file. Save it, reinstall your machine (or if you are moving from one machine to another) and in the new machine, just hit restore with the generated file and you’re *done*.

    And thunderbird? Sure, windows users have mozBackup, but how about us? If ubuntu is supposed to be simple, then I think a good backup/restore solution is really important (or there actually is a way to backup and restore thunderbird emails?).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HQGG6A6HTQWHBJGOQVFKENFQFM Alexandru

      for Tbird you simply have to copy the .thunderbird directory from your home. it’s that simple

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000071782778 Bob Brazie

    I too hope there will be an easy way to move my mail and calendars to Thunderbird and the calendar add on.

    Right now there is not an easy way to import elevation  files into Thunderbird. If there were i would be using it now.

    I will keep hoping until the new release.

  • Anonymous

    Would it be possible to simply link to a url from the mail icon?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001051899753 Stefan Prasse

    what about gnome-shell integration? Events are displayed (after a while) but open Calender doesn’ work…

  • Anonymous

    I thought I’d give Thunderbird another shot with the Lightning plugin.

    First, it stops me setting up my e-mail because my account settings are wrong, but it works in Evolution, then it asks for some Google Calendar ‘Location’. Why, Canonical?

  • Anonymous

    So it’s all fine and dandy that Thunderbird is the new default email application…but in doing so they’ve messed up the calendar integration. I’m also wondering what’s up with contact syncing. Seems to me that it never worked very well and now with Thunderbird, not at all.  So in the end…what was the point

  • Joliea

    I don’t like Thunderbird! I’ve always preferred Evolution. However, I’ve tried using Evolution but it keeps crashing! Huh!