GNOME 3 delayed until March 2011

By , Published July 28, 2010

The release of GNOME 3 has been delayed once again, this time proposed for release in March of 2011.

The news, announced at GUADEC, is to allow the GNOME team ‘another release cycle to mature’ the first major overhaul the GNOME desktop has seen for many, many years.

In a press release posted on the official GNOME website GNOME said “we feel that our users and downstream community are better served by holding the GNOME 3.0 release until March 2011. This gives adequate time not only for feature development, but user feedback and testing.”

GNOME releases are targeted at every six months in order to provide a reliable and stable platform for users and developers. As such GNOME 2.32 will ship in September ‘along with a preview release of GNOME 3.0.’

“GNOME 2.32 will still have a number of interesting new features such as color management and UPnP support as well as the usual performance enhancements and bug fixes that have marked GNOME’s timed releases for years.” the press release assures.

Article originally appeared on omgubuntu.co.uk

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  • haydoni

    Could it make Ubuntu 11.04?

    • Anonymous

      Don’t think so…not enough time to test it once it is in its final form…remember the alphas start soon after a release

      so maybe 11.10

      • Thomas

        hmm i think it could make 11.04, remember gnome 3.0 could have been in 10.10 nearly, they weren’t sure for a long time..

        • Guest

          It will be shipped on 11.10 if not 12.04 if not 12.10… well. still at least 2 years before test this GNOME 3. I wonder how Windows 8, Mac and Chrome OS will look like at that time ?

          • Theguy

            Yeah, right. They’ve always been releasing half baked things, like PulseAudio on 8.04 (and that one was on a LTS!), the mess of Intel drivers and ext4 on 9.04, the useless network manager on 8.10, and so on. I don’t see why they would wait to release a stable Gnome 3 on Ubuntu. They will ship it right away when it’s packaged, no matter it’s completely stable or not.

          • http://dieki.myopenid.com/ Dieki

            Ext4 was an advanced config option in 9.04. It wasn’t on by default until 9.10 – and by then it worked perfectly. (I never heard of any problems with it in 9.04, either) The problem in 8.10 wasn’t Network Manager – it was a lack of WiFi drivers. There were intel problems in 9.04? I guess I never noticed. There were problems with PulseAudio, but it was important that they ship that as early as possible so it would replace other, more broken systems.

            @Guest What, you actually expect Windows 8 to be out by then? Microsoft is the king of vaporware. You can look for Windows 8 in 2014, if history is any indication.

          • Theguy

            In 8.10, to setup a wired connection (Ethernet), it was necessary to edit the hosts file manually, if you didn’t, the connection data (IP, gateway, DNSs) would be nuked after closing the little configuration utility. It’s easy to edit that file, many will say, but it’s not something the average user would be willing to do.

            8.10 didn’t last more than one day on my computer. Went back to 8.04.

            More broken systems? You are saying that ALSA was more broken in 8.04 than PulseAudio? Thanks to PulseAudio, If I wanted to watch any video with VLC or Totem, and Rhythmbox was open, instead of pausing the music and playing the video, I had to CLOSE Rhythmbox to let Totem or VLC output any sound. That’s unacceptable. In 7.10 everything was using ALSA and there was not that kind of problems. In hindsight, the only version of Ubuntu that worked half decently on my laptop was 9.10. 10.04 was Ubuntu Vista to me, hangs here and there, panic kernels and stuff.

            Stuff that has been left in the past, anyway.

    • http://twitter.com/om26er omer akram

      Most probably yes.

    • Arab Najjar

      i think ubuntu 11.04 will include gnome 3 and all of it’s features
      because gnome 3 beta will be released with 2.32 in September as mentioned above
      so there about more than 6 months to polishing and fixing the bugs

  • Choribaquero80

    Another delay! is like php6… jajaja, at this point we might use gnome 2.* for the rest of our lives jajajaja

  • Anonymous

    While we’re all waiting for the future of Gnome and anticipating Gnome 3.0 (or maybe not anticipating it), I’m glad to see that they are focused on a mature release! With such major changes to the interface its important that the initial release be as solid as possible and polish in some bling. :D

    A+ decision to the Gnome Release Team!

  • Theguy

    Will they finally implement decent loading of icons in folders with lots of files?

    • http://dieki.myopenid.com/ Dieki

      You mean fix the nautilus bug that causes image thumbnails to be bigger than normal icons? They’re working on it. The problem is that some people like the current behavior, some people don’t. It is better in 10.04, if you’d noticed.

      • Theguy

        The problem I’m talking about is: why should we have to wait like 20 seconds to get all the icons in folder with 101 folders and 431 pictures to load? Even Windows Explorer can do it in less than three seconds. Why yes, I use Ubuntu 10.04, and I remember the old days of 7.10 when a similar folder made Nautilus hang while all the icons were loading. But It has been almost three years, they should stop focusing in moving around menu items and stripping off features instead of actually fixing bugs and things that look trivial to us but for casual users are show stoppers.

        • Theguy

          Sorry, I meant stop focusing in moving around menu items and stripping off features AND FOCUSING ON actually fixing bugs and things that look trivial to us but for casual users are show stoppers.

        • http://dieki.myopenid.com/ Dieki

          Who is “they”? The one-and-a-half nautilus developers, working _unpaid_ in their spare time? You should be thanking them, not complaining about how they didn’t do what you want. Do you know how hard it is to make a program of that size substantially faster? It would take hours and hours of totally non-fun grunt work; and you demand that unpaid people do this in their spare time? If you want it done, do it yourself! No programming skills? Then hire someone! No money? Then use a different file manager!

          Feature removal.. you talk of it as though it’s evil. It’s not. Better too few features than too many.

          • Theguy

            You’re right, I have no right to demand things. And I don’t have to be masochistic either. When I used Windows my only annoyance was the machine getting slower over time, I was always careful enough and not stupid enough to get my machines infected by viruses, by plugging infected external drives or not visiting websites that are sure to inject malware on my machine. I had an antivirus and firewall and kept them updated all the time, and updated the system regularly. But the first Linux I met was Ubuntu, and I liked it so much that I made the switch. Today, I tried to hibernate my computer, only to get the screen blocked, Tried to hibernate again, BOOOM! Kernel Panic. Windows is sh*t, but at least it works the way it is supposed to (Bèranger anyone?). I don’t have to be masochistic anymore, so I guess I’ll make use of my shiny new Windows 7 license that came with my new laptop.

  • Anonymous

    Well it seems that this is going to turn into vaporware and never actually get finished. Really I think they could have released it properly a year ago and let the downstreams fix it for proper releases. At the moment the main contributor is red hat and not many others and it just shows the attitude towards the desktop redhat has.

    • Anonymous

      Well, Fedora and openSUSE implemented it better actually. Fedora put an option to start GNOME 3 in the desktop effects and openSUSE put an option in the GDM session. I tried it in 10.04 and it’s not even integrated. Who wants to run commands to use or test it?At least Redhat contribute a lot to Linux and the desktop. Where are the Ubuntu developers then, trying to make it better?

      • Anonymous

        For ubuntu 10.10 we should have a gnome-shell session in GDM too if I remember right. Before you had to start gnome normally and say gnome-shell –replace in command line to start it.

        Well if I remember right the ubuntu desktop team were in the meeting where gnome shell was thought up the problem is that red hat havent really been the most open for differences in their design of it. Its a lot of work to do it but for instance the Zeitgeist guys had a patch to give gnome shell initial support a year ago and they didnt push it.

        They just arent developing it in a way that allows people to contribute.

        On the Ubuntu developers side of things the canonical design team have contributed a lot since they were created like the app indicators and notify-osd that were rejected by gnome upstream.

        • Zsolt Sándor

          Maybe because they found notify-osd and indicators defective. I’m using Fedora now, with the good old notification system, themed to look better, and it’s interactive in most cases. And I actually prefer it that way. Ok, it’s not transparent and lacks some bling, but who cares, if usability is better. GNOME3 notifications will be interactive as well.
          As for the indicators, we had some rants around here on it’s cons, like ditching tooltips, text display on tray, etc. I find the proposed GNOME3 tray concept better.

          BTW some might find this interesting: http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/07/28/gnome-census-report-available/

        • Anonymous

          Of course they were rejected. They’re a difference way of working to GNOME upstream. You guys are going a completely different way to GNOME upstream and you wonder why your code gets rejected.I personally don’t think your applets add anything better and I prefer the one-click minimise to notification area and they lack tooltips. I prefer the GNOME upstream notifications as well, since notify-osd just stays in the same position when you move the panels, are non clickable and stay on the screen way too long.10.10 is too late for your gnome-shell session integration, since it will be close to release by then.

          • zekopeko

            >Of course they were rejected. They’re a difference way of working to GNOME upstream. You guys are going a completely different way to GNOME upstream and you wonder why your code gets rejected.

            WTF are you talking about? Ubuntu devs created the modules and proposed them for inclusion in GNOME. The way it should be.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t need a crystal ball to tell you GNOME would have rejected them. It’s got nothing to do with the way you “created the modules”. Your app indicator and notifiy-osd just isn’t right for GNOME and it’s totally not their way in my view.

            GNOME are very resistant to change and what you proposed, in my view doesn’t suit GNOME. Just because Ubuntu are going the OS X way, doesn’t mean GNOME will.

          • zekopeko

            >GNOME are very resistant to change

            You must have missed Gnome-shell. If that isn’t change then I don’t know what is.

            >and what you proposed

            I didn’t propose anything. Ubuntu devs did.

            >Just because Ubuntu are going the OS X way, doesn’t mean GNOME will

            …and this is the part where you lose all credibility. It’s also funny since OSX doesn’t have anything like indicators or notify-osd.

          • Anonymous

            Since 1996 yeah, we will have GNOME-Shell in 2011. I’ve been contributor for GNOME and they’re very resistant to change.

            Lose my creditability hey? Ever heard of OS X Growl? notifiy-osd is pretty much an exact copy of it.

          • Anonymous

            Gnome is resistant to change just because the way it takes votes for module inclusion. Also they are very ridged about having to use their git server and their bugzilla. Maybe some people prefer dismissable notifications or having a more flexible notification area. Its a matter of choice.

            Its nothing like growl except slightly in how its themed. Growl notifications are dismissable.

          • Anonymous

            Gnome is resistant to change just because the way it takes votes for module inclusion. Also they are very ridged about having to use their git server and their bugzilla. Maybe some people prefer dismissable notifications or having a more flexible notification area. Its a matter of choice.

            Its nothing like growl except slightly in how its themed. Growl notifications are dismissable.

          • Anonymous

            Since 1996 yeah, we will have GNOME-Shell in 2011. I’ve been contributor for GNOME and they’re very resistant to change.

            Lose my creditability hey? Ever heard of OS X Growl? notifiy-osd is pretty much an exact copy of it.

          • zekopeko

            >GNOME are very resistant to change

            You must have missed Gnome-shell. If that isn’t change then I don’t know what is.

            >and what you proposed

            I didn’t propose anything. Ubuntu devs did.

            >Just because Ubuntu are going the OS X way, doesn’t mean GNOME will

            …and this is the part where you lose all credibility. It’s also funny since OSX doesn’t have anything like indicators or notify-osd.

  • http://twitter.com/om26er omer akram

    A good decision after all but delivering on time is an important thing IMO

    • Shasta McShasta

      I’m not a huge fan of Gnome 3, but I’d rather delay a release to have a solid, quality product than send out buggy, incomplete software in order to meet an arbitrary deadline. That said, I also see your point. If it is continually delayed, it risks becoming the next Duke Nukem Forever. I’m still waiting.

  • Arab Najjar

    but does gnome 2.32 will be included in 10.10 ??

    • http://twitter.com/K9ru K-9

      Yep

  • http://blastfromthepast.se/ Tommy Brunn

    That’s probably a good thing. I really do like where Gnome 3 is going, but we don’t want another KDE 4 (when it was first released, that is. Now I hear it’s pretty stable), so I think it was a wise decision to hold off on releasing it for another cycle.

    • Hugmyballs

      Riiiight. Did you even use KDE 4.0 or did you just read a couple of rants about it? Actually I should ask if you’ve EVER used KDE, any release. Probably not.

      • http://blastfromthepast.se/ Tommy Brunn

        Yes. I did use KDE 4.0 and the release candidates before that, plus one of the versions following the 4.0 version (not sure if it was 4.1 or something else).

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          Well, I used KDE 4.0, 4.2, and 4.4 and I never had any troubles on it. I’ll be waiting the GNOME 3.0 beta or “Technical Preview” :P

          • http://blastfromthepast.se/ Tommy Brunn

            “Works for me” isn’t really a solid argument. ;) But I agree that the last version I used was pretty stable.

          • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

            Touché, but “we don’t want another KDE 4″ isn’t really a solid argument too :P

          • http://blastfromthepast.se/ Tommy Brunn

            No, but it wasn’t meant to be one. Just a reminder of what can happen when you push a release out too quickly – as documented in the link yo2boy provided (http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars)

    • Anonymous

      Speaking personally, the initial versions of KDE4 are exactly why I’m using Gnome now.
      I was a very happy KDE user but those horribly buggy and incomplete early KDE versions should have been kept strictly for testing or as install OPTIONS (whereas distros were using it for main releases and giving OPTIONAL KDE 3.x).

      Although KDE 4 is certainly a lot more stable these days I am yet to use a KDE 4 distro that HASN’T had some sort of crash within the first hour of use.

      As much as I’m interested to see what they do with Gnome 3, I think they are doing the sensible thing.

      • http://twitter.com/KyleClarkeNZ Kyle Clarke

        Every part of me wants to use KDE because of the eye candy (or at least perceived eye candy) so that people will stop and ask me why my computer is so awesome. But in actual practice it’s painful using KDE. Very painful, and I don’t wish that on to unsuspecting people who happen to ask what I’m using.

        I’ve managed to impress the socks off of people who I demonstrate it to, but I would never recommend these same people to use it themselves as I wouldn’t even use it on a daily basis.

        • Hugmyballs

          It’s neither buggy nor painful. I switched over nearly a year ago now and haven’t looked back. KDE 4.4.5 is extremely stable and it’s only getting better with 4.5 coming out next week. If you’re really interested, if I were you I’d just install Kubuntu alongside Ubuntu (installing the kubuntu-desktop package never works right) on another partition and give it a proper test run. I find on average KDE apps to be a lot more feature-packed and useful than their gnome counterparts (e.g. gwenview vs eye of gnome, kile vs gedit + latex plugin, kontact vs evolution, okular vs evince, etc.) and everything is so nicely consistent and integrated in KDE.

      • http://twitter.com/KyleClarkeNZ Kyle Clarke

        Every part of me wants to use KDE because of the eye candy (or at least perceived eye candy) so that people will stop and ask me why my computer is so awesome. But in actual practice it’s painful using KDE. Very painful, and I don’t wish that on to unsuspecting people who happen to ask what I’m using.

        I’ve managed to impress the socks off of people who I demonstrate it to, but I would never recommend these same people to use it themselves as I wouldn’t even use it on a daily basis.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it will go vaporware and we’ll get regular gnome releases until a better vision of GNOME 3 appears.

    *crosses fingers*

    • http://twitter.com/K9ru K-9

      Maybe they will find it and it would really be great? *crosses fingers too*

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t agree more. Just keeping working on making Gnome better, Gnome-Shell is really not the way forward.

      • Anonymous

        Gnome-Shell IS a way forward. Maybe you don’t like it (Dan neither). That’s personal and I respect that. But what’s not forward, definitely, is staying, no matter where you stay.

    • zekopeko

      The newest mockups actually look sane. They even have what looks like a dock.

      http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars

      • http://www.google.com/profiles/harveycabaguio Harvey

        My guess is that “dock” is supposed to the application launcher that’s in the activities menu.

        • zekopeko

          You mean the Favorite/Running apps? If so I think you are correct.

        • zekopeko

          You mean the Favorite/Running apps? If so I think you are correct.

      • http://www.google.com/profiles/harveycabaguio Harvey

        My guess is that “dock” is supposed to the application launcher that’s in the activities menu.

      • https://launchpad.net/~davidnielsen David Nielsen

        While that is a mockup it does have some striking similarities with Unity.

      • https://launchpad.net/~davidnielsen David Nielsen

        While that is a mockup it does have some striking similarities with Unity.

    • zekopeko

      The newest mockups actually look sane. They even have what looks like a dock.

      http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars

    • Anonymous

      It will happen, Dan. But nothing stops you from pursuing your OSX cloning for the Linux world. Keep up the good work.

      • Anonymous

        Yep that is my plan. Why run OS X on my MacBook when I can waste hours and hours of my life trying to reconstruct it from scratch?

        • Anonymous

          That’s exactly what I’ve been wondering all this time. But everyone is free to waste his life their way, so enjoy!

      • Anonymous

        Yep that is my plan. Why run OS X on my MacBook when I can waste hours and hours of my life trying to reconstruct it from scratch?

    • Anonymous

      It will happen, Dan. But nothing stops you from pursuing your OSX cloning for the Linux world. Keep up the good work.

  • http://dieki.myopenid.com/ Dieki

    Woah, didn’t see that coming. I suppose it’s for the best; nobody wants a Windows Vista.

    • http://twitter.com/K9ru K-9

      Yeah, agreed. I guess they need more testing, if they don’t want it to fail like KDE 4.0

      • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

        And when KDE 4 failed?

        • http://wakoopa.com/yo2boy yo2boy

          ” Many Linux enthusiasts likely remember the problems that plagued the competing KDE desktop environment when its fourth major version was released in 2008. KDE 4 was launched prematurely in a partially completed state because its developers hoped that users would help identify weaknesses and accelerate the completion of the software. The plan backfired, partly because mixed messages from KDE’s developers broadly distorted the expectations of the software’s users. ”

          According to: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars

          • http://sinlugareneltiempo.blogspot.com/ Rub3nmv

            I still don’t understand how Opensuse, Mandriva, Ubuntu and Fedora made it default so early when developers warned about it.

          • Peter Guirguis

            My first linux experience was with fedora 9 and kde 4.0
            I remember the fedora site claimed that kde for users coming from windows.
            Fu*kin distros
            I didn’t gave up with linux… tried gnome and never looked back.

          • Peter Guirguis

            My first linux experience was with fedora 9 and kde 4.0
            I remember the fedora site claimed that kde for users coming from windows.
            Fu*kin distros
            I didn’t gave up with linux… tried gnome and never looked back.

          • Tuco

            “The plan backfired, partly because mixed messages from KDE’s developers broadly distorted the expectations of the software’s users.”

            I remember when it came out, I saw a message on the official announcement saying it wasn’t stable yet, I don’t understand where’s the mixed messages. Why the fuck Opensuse and Mandriva shipped it by default?

      • Tuco

        KDE 4.0 was meant to be tested by users, not to be shipped as the default desktop, Opensuse, Mandriva and others screwed.

    • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

      I liked Windows Vista, if you had a new PC it worked flawlessly; I rather like that than vaporware :P

      • Anonymous

        It worked flawlessly for one month and then it would take 10mins to reboot, stall for no reason, touchpad stopped working for no reason and so forth.

      • Anonymous

        The great comedy was that computers were being sold with Celeron CPUs, 512 mb ram and Vista. That’s a recipe for FAIL.

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          Yes it, is, if you want Windows Vista to work without aero you need at least 1GB RAM and a Dual Core processor. When Vista was released my PC used to have 256 RAM, it was like XP or trash, now that old PC with 256 RAM is running flawesly Ubuntu 10.04 :)

          • http://wakoopa.com/yo2boy yo2boy

            Hmm.. my PC’s 512mb ram (Ubuntu says 497.4mb for some weird odd reason) and it really slows down when I have more than 5 windows open.

          • http://wakoopa.com/yo2boy yo2boy

            Hmm.. my PC’s 512mb ram (Ubuntu says 497.4mb for some weird odd reason) and it really slows down when I have more than 5 windows open.

          • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

            I can write a document (OpenOffice.org), chat with Empathy and browse the web with Midori/Empathy at the same time without any trouble, all of this running Dropbox and the Wakoopa tracker. I’m not telling that it works perfectly as my PC with 4 GB RAM, but it works; sometimes it freezes a bit, but nothing serious, I can’t spect more from a 6 years old PC.

          • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

            I can write a document (OpenOffice.org), chat with Empathy and browse the web with Midori/Empathy at the same time without any trouble, all of this running Dropbox and the Wakoopa tracker. I’m not telling that it works perfectly as my PC with 4 GB RAM, but it works; sometimes it freezes a bit, but nothing serious, I can’t spect more from a 6 years old PC.

      • daas88

        Yeah and everyone loved UAC, and how resource friendly it was, right?

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          The first thing I done when I got my Notebook with Windows Vista was disable UAC :P. By the way, with SP2 Windows Vista works fine.

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          The first thing I done when I got my Notebook with Windows Vista was disable UAC :P. By the way, with SP2 Windows Vista works fine.

      • Anonymous

        Man, I bought a new Vista laptop, 2.2GHz Intel dual core, 2GB RAM, ATI HD2600 512MB etc and Vista just sucked so hard.

        The thing that ultimately drove me away from it was the start menu crashing all the time, all I’d do is click it. And here I am now, an Ubuntu member and core contributor. Thanks Vista!

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          Yes I got to admit that, as when Vista was released I had an old PC I started with Ubuntu. But as I told in other comment, with SP2 Windows Vista works really well (but still need lot of time to update).

        • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

          Yes I got to admit that, as when Vista was released I had an old PC I started with Ubuntu. But as I told in other comment, with SP2 Windows Vista works really well (but still need lot of time to update).

      • Anonymous

        Man, I bought a new Vista laptop, 2.2GHz Intel dual core, 2GB RAM, ATI HD2600 512MB etc and Vista just sucked so hard.

        The thing that ultimately drove me away from it was the start menu crashing all the time, all I’d do is click it. And here I am now, an Ubuntu member and core contributor. Thanks Vista!

  • Anonymous

    Good decision ! A lesson learned with the KDE4 mistake…

  • http://twitter.com/Stewie2kill Stewie2kill

    Yeah I was watching the feed when they announced that. Probably a good idea. Taking a tip from KDE4 no doubt. I still refuse to use the shell though as it proves to make my nice 1000$ desktop tower and 700$ laptop look like a giant netbook.

    If I remember correctly though there’s much more being planned for gnome 3.0 than just the shell and I can’t wait for that.

  • Anonymous

    I think there is a mistake in the quote: “This gives adequate time not only for feature development, but user feedback and testing.”

    He forgot “and feature removal to keep things simple,”

    Gnome, where they spend ages developing and implementing features, to remove them a while later to reduce clutter….

    And yes I love Gnome, its my primary desktop, but sometimes the devs make me want to weep :P

  • http://www.dottingred.com Daniel Rodrigues

    Hmmm, so this means we’ll have Gnome 3 in Ubuntu by … 11.10? Nice :)
    It’s without doubs a wise decision.

  • Hugmyballs

    “Major overhaul”–really? Yeah, there’s Gnome shell, but that’s optional. The rest of Gnome is the same old crap as it’s been for YEARS. Ok, it’s not crap, but still…

    Hail KDE!

  • https://launchpad.net/~b.a.koenig Your Name

    I would like to see something like Unity as GNOME 3. It would need the ability to add multiple workspaces and so on. But it’s a convenient interface.

  • Messayah

    I totally agree with this and I think that it would be a good thing to prolong the release schedule of major Linux distributions to let’s say eight month release ( et least for LTS i case of Ubuntu) in order to increase stability,functionality and quality in general.

  • http://twitter.com/shishimaru1000 Salvatore Cresce

    I knew it. Gnome 3 is still not ready to be stable etc. etc.
    I’m sure enough that March won’t be the right moment for the new Gnome Desktop at its “max power”.

  • daas88

    Another delay for gnome shell, great news :D
    I’m also waiting for them to announce that elementary nautilus will be default. We shouldn’t need a ppa for that…

  • Thatguy

    Well Gnome-shell seemed pretty stable to me but I guess it’s smarter to release it when it’s ready, that way you get most quality out of it.

  • Anonymous

    I think this was the best decision they could take, I really would like to see a solid Gnome 3 rather than an incomplete, bug & feature-filled release. The latest mockup of Gnome Shell looks a little but like the interface that is being developed for Unity… anyway, it looks much better that previous ones and that I would use. I don’t like the actual application launcher nor the logistic of the sidebar in the Activities view of the Shell.

  • Anonymous

    hilarious, but as expected
    Gnome did the same thing with epiphany, they took a good functioning gecko-based browser, and moved it to webkit. They planned on having it done by 2.24, but even now it is a buggy, unpolished browser.
    Compiz must be laughing now, Gnome still haven’t been able to cut and paste Compiz’s code efficiently. Gnome should have worked Compiz and their devs rather than reimplementing everything.

  • Anonymous

    hilarious, but as expected
    Gnome did the same thing with epiphany, they took a good functioning gecko-based browser, and moved it to webkit. They planned on having it done by 2.24, but even now it is a buggy, unpolished browser.
    Compiz must be laughing now, Gnome still haven’t been able to cut and paste Compiz’s code efficiently. Gnome should have worked Compiz and their devs rather than reimplementing everything.

  • http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus Carl Draper

    As a certain beer advert said “You can’t rush these things!”

  • http://twitter.com/EzeAris Ezequiel Aristan

    Actually, when I saw Ubuntu with KDE 4.0 I felt in love and insalled it without think it, that might be the first time that I started used Linux as main operative system. KDE 3.5 was really horrible, and the old Ubuntu (GNOME) theme was even worse; KDE 4.0 make me see that I could have a good-looking linux distro out of the box and I began to be interested on this Operative System.

  • https://launchpad.net/~davidnielsen David Nielsen

    The GNOME platform update to 3.x looks fairly decent but overall the GNOME 3 experience is a big let down compared to what was introduced in mockups and designs when the talks started. There is nothing next generation about it and a whole lot of “rewrite everything in javascript for no good reason”. It isn’t even treating modern technologies like Zeitgeist and Tracker as cornerstones which should otherwise have been a no-brainer.

    GNOME 3, it’s like GNOME 2 only without vision, inspiration, ambition or progress..

  • https://launchpad.net/~davidnielsen David Nielsen

    The GNOME platform update to 3.x looks fairly decent but overall the GNOME 3 experience is a big let down compared to what was introduced in mockups and designs when the talks started. There is nothing next generation about it and a whole lot of “rewrite everything in javascript for no good reason”. It isn’t even treating modern technologies like Zeitgeist and Tracker as cornerstones which should otherwise have been a no-brainer.

    GNOME 3, it’s like GNOME 2 only without vision, inspiration, ambition or progress..

  • Yi Sun-sin

    Gnome Nukem Forever !

  • Travvisman1994

    I nope gnome 3 never gets released. Gnome shell sucks. I hate it so much that if ubuntu goes to gnome shell i switch to kde.