Evolution 3.0 now available for Ubuntu 11.04 GNOME 3 users

By Joey Sneddon, Published May 20, 2011

Evolution 3.0 is finally available for Ubuntu 11.04 GNOME 3 users to install, thanks to danilo.

Evolution 3.0 for GNOME 3 doesn’t differ greatly from Evolution 2.x as found by default in Ubuntu 11.04 – at least not on the surface. But if you’re using GNOME 3 in Ubuntu you might as well be using the latest version of its default mail application, too.

With Evolution requiring dependencies from the GNOME 3 PPA Ubuntu 11.04 Unity users cannot use this PPA.

Add ‘ppa:danilo/evolution’ to Software Sources, accessible via The Ubuntu Software Centre, and then run Update Manager to upgrade Evolution to version 3.0.

To reiterate: this is not available for Ubuntu 11.04 Unity users only those with GNOME3/Shell installed via the GNOME 3 PPA.

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http://twitter.com/zwaldowski Zachary Waldowski
It’s… beautiful!

http://journal.jakubrusinek.pl/ Jakub Rusinek
No, it’s not. Take a look at “Mail” header over the folder tree. Still looks ugly like in Evolution based on GTK 2.x. I’m glad they’ve fixed the ugly “New” button bug after years of begging…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOR655GR4ZFHCMSV7FW5ROPSAA Cliff W
Actually they should just get rid of that header, as it’s fairly redundant (buttons below also indicate what the pane is showing, as does a bit of common sense).

Anonymous
I the new GNOME theme ugly, and that’s what Evolution is using here. It is inconsistent and confused.

http://twitter.com/cyrildz cyrildz
can someone tell me the benefit of Evolution 3 over the default one on Natty ? I’m waiting Oneric to see what Gnome 3 has to offer

http://twitter.com/kmetamorphosis Bertel King, Jr.
I use it in Fedora, and it seems to simply be a port of Evolution from gtk2 to gtk3. If you’re already using GNOME 3, you want it. Otherwise, there’s nothing to get excited about.
http://www.facebook.com/john.t.folden John T. Folden
There are no “major” changes but there are around 200+ bug fixes.

http://profiles.google.com/laurynas.ragaisis Laurynas Ragaisis
damn, was it really so buggy??
:)

http://www.facebook.com/WesleyKingdom William Leung Kwan Lok
hmm…gnome 3 ?!
http://twitter.com/puffpiano Jänz S.
those list-labels / list headers still are looking like buttons… say hello to inconsistency in gnome

Anonymous
i really hate gnome’s(or gtk?) widgets. look at the dropdown button, it’s so fat!

patrick.ulbrich
the buttons aren’t that fat any more. it’s just ubuntu’s outdated gnom3 stack. look at gnome3 in fedora for comparison

Anonymous
Not to mention that the widgets were made that way in the default Adwaita theme since they want to have a theme that works well across tablets, laptops, and widescreens. I can confirm that Gnome 3 was easier and more enjoyable to use on a tablet than Unity, and one of the reasons was the forgiving amount of padding inside the widgets.
I think they’ve found a good enough compromise, as they’re trying to provide a consistent look and feel for their branding (similar to what KDE 4′s Oxygen project is all about).
I would be interested in seeing a separate theme for tablets and desktop computers, however, in case there are issues for some users of either type of device.
Bilal Akhtar
Hello, its the same case in Fedora. I’ve tried that out myself. What are you blabbering about?

patrick.ulbrich
Bilal, no its not the same case. Padding and button sizes have been significantly reduced in fedora. I read somewere that those changes were made in gnome 3 upstream. fedora comes with gnome 3.0.1.
Don’t get me wrong, you guys are doing a great packaging job. I just wanted to point out that Gnome 3 does not use that initial mega padding anymore.
http://twitter.com/trthwillout Noh Tahnx
that looks exactly the same…

http://anaershadowynomaly.deviantart.com Farran Lee
..they are buttons though? They’re clickable so you can re-order the list.

Anonymous
Which you can do with standard listview headers.
I don’t get why Evolution is still doing this.

http://tomslominski.net/ Tom Slominski
Please tell me it’s faster than Evolution 2.x…

Yi Sun-sin
It does feel faster, and goes less out of control.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOR655GR4ZFHCMSV7FW5ROPSAA Cliff W
Evo is quite fast for me (and I get thousands of mails per day from mailing lists and whatnot). Maybe it’s your mail server that’s slow?

http://tomslominski.net/ Tom Slominski
Well, my broadband provider has some issues with my mail server (and even though me and my hosting provider provided logs and other detailed info, Sky said it’s within it’s guidelines and then sent me an empty email and began looking for another cause…), but it worked much better in Thunderbird (which made a complete mess of my mailbox) and it works brilliant via Roundcube!

http://profiles.google.com/ragnis.armus Ragnis Armus
Wow…It’s so
UGLY!

http://tomslominski.net/ Tom Slominski
I’ve seen worse…
Anonymous
It has more padding than a 1980s sports jacket

http://twitter.com/samhorne Samuel Horne
I hate padding.
http://www.twm-kd.com/ BigWhale
It also looks like it was made in 80′s… and not because of the padding…

Anonymous
hahahahahahaha … nice =D
Anonymous
I’ll bet it *still* doesn’t have decent html support. That’s against the rules, y’know.

Anonymous
No, sending HTML email is against the rules.

http://twitter.com/gonzf Gonzalo Fernandez
Yes, before 1999.

Anonymous
i think you mean *since* 1999 :)

http://twitter.com/gonzf Gonzalo Fernandez
Yes, before 1999.

daas88
evolution it’s not ugly by itself… it’s the awful gnome 3 default theme, adwaita…
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LXKVRX2BCY5Z5RSL4JOZBR5GKA Justin Seiferth
And, there’s no corresponding exchange-mapi. What do developers think we use evolution. THE ONLY POINT TO EVOLUTION IS TO ALLOW THOSE OF US FORCED TO USE EXCHANGE A WAY OUT OF WINDOWS. There are tons of POP/IMAP compatible mail readers- evolution is just one of a billion. The only thing evolution has going for it is the sometime ability to interface with MS exchange 2007/2010 servers. This is THE most important feature and it’s not in the ppa.

http://profiles.google.com/jcook.linux Jeff Cook
I installed it so far not a big difference feels faster. I know they did alot of work on the data-server and clean up the code. One note: It does upgrade your mail boxes so there is a likely hood you may not be able to go back to 2.*

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4MKVHJIXLFF4SNVEJSFX5G67TM Raw
I was wondering about this, since I have not found any references to Evolution switching from mbox to maildir. Is this related to the conflict between this update and the available version of evolution-exchange? When Evolution is updated, evolution-exchange must be removed (for now).
Do you know if this is a permanent migration intended by the Evolution team?
At any rate, my (rather large) mailbox migrated perfectly in the background, and opened up the Evolution window when it finished. At least the migration process works.

http://twitter.com/chemicaloliver Oliver
The separate repository is now not required as evolution 3 has been packaged in the main gnome team ppa.
Anonymous
There’s a lot of wasted space without the global-menu, blimey!
http://twitter.com/baedert baedert
Ok. Cool. Gtk3, yeah!
unfortunately, it’s ugly as hell.

Yi Sun-sin
You can theme it. I think there is an Ambiance-like theme. I wonder when there will be an Elementary theme…
http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=167

http://twitter.com/baedert baedert
I know I can theme it, I’m using it atm(on arch, not on ubuntu). I didn’t mean gtk3, I meant evolution(WHY are those buttons so fat?!)
I’ve just tried it under arch. Doesn’t look THAT bad actually(but I’m also using smaller fonts…). Unfortunately, it’s still unusable because it takes like 3 seconds to *close* and I only open my email app when I need it.

Anonymous
you’re on arch? i didn’t realise people actually used it, i just thought it was something people said :)

Yi Sun-sin
So do I. I have an Ubuntu install, that I boot up almost only every 6 months for the upgrade. But it’s useful for my icon theme (I want to cover Ubuntu-specific icons) and that way I can see Ubuntu’s evolution (I’m curious :⋅D).
Yi Sun-sin
So do I. I have an Ubuntu install, that I boot up almost only every 6 months for the upgrade. But it’s useful for my icon theme (I want to cover Ubuntu-specific icons) and that way I can see Ubuntu’s evolution (I’m curious :⋅D).

Yi Sun-sin
I personally like Evolution. And it really seems like that version has improved it, with a few details changes like the status of message sending that is displayed inside the compose windows, and also on how he react to user input. It used to do whatever it wanted and getting stuck in case of network trouble. It’s still not perfect, but it’s going better. I have nothing against it looks. It does use my icon theme and my GTK theme, that’s all I ask.

Daniel Foré
I’m working on it right now, you can check out what I have so far in lp:egtk
you will need Cimi’s unico engine from lp:unico

Yi Sun-sin
Ah, great ! That way I guess it will be ready when Ubuntu (and therefore, I guess, ElementaryOS) will switch to GTK3 :D.
I’ll try it later, I guess. I’ll wait for Unico to be available on the AUR (or in the repository :D) and the theme to be on Gnome-Look ;).

http://journal.jakubrusinek.pl/ Jakub Rusinek
If I used Linux as my main OS, I’d switch to Thunderbird years ago. Better maintained.
http://twitter.com/fosco_ fosco_
too sad there is nothing new in Evolution 3

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOR655GR4ZFHCMSV7FW5ROPSAA Cliff W
Other than being ported to GTK3? Yeah, nothing.

http://www.facebook.com/john.t.folden John T. Folden
Uh, yeah… if you don’t count the move to GTK3…or the 200+ bugfixes then “nothing”…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOR655GR4ZFHCMSV7FW5ROPSAA Cliff W
I want my money back.
Anonymous
yeah … nothing
seriously though, to non-developers, the phrase “bugfixes” equates to “things that should have never been wrong have been fixed”
People like innovation, not spit shining the status quo.
my two cents

Yi Sun-sin
Yeah, you don’t get enough for your money. Oh, wait, what ?
Anonymous
I didn’t pay any money, so what in the world are you talking about? ;P
but seriously, evolution moves slow as it is … and many had hope for something new when they inevitably had to move to GTK3. However, “bugfixes” don’t quench that appetite for more (a necessary and identifying part of the linux community).
What I’m trying to say is that just because its free doesn’t mean I have to push the bar down, rather it should be put higher to challenge and entice both the consumer and the developer.
I acknowledge and applaud your defense of the product, however, it is misplaced
Yi Sun-sin
@lkm32:disqus Well, there actually are a a few changes in the interface, but nothing big. However, I can’t mention any feature I would wait eagerly for Evolution to add, so…
And expecting big change when they switched to GTK3 was not that realistic, since porting to GTK3 was already consuming most of the dev’s efforts ;). It would be more realistic to expect changes for 3.2
Anonymous
Yi Sun-sin , And that is exactly what I’m trying to say; that is, a “bugfix release” is fine … just don’t expect much fan-fare out of it; I was just perturbed at the thought that someone would lower the bar because something is “free”.
If anything, criticism of Evolution (such as outdated exchange support and lack of proper email setup troubleshooting) should be applauded as it shows that people are lifting the bar in anticipation of the project.Though seriously, Evolution is kinda slow on development … its not necessarily bad; just not great either.

http://twitter.com/josian_220 José Antonio
OMG have you guys tryed the RC of LibreOffice 3.4? IT’S AMAZING! Faster and has a clear UI so great :D
Dietmar Wolf
I like evolution a lot !
Vitali Carbivnicii
Close to tray? No? Let’s wait a couple of years more then.

Anonymous
The best person to fix something is the person who cares about it. Many people don’t. It seems you do.
Why are you waiting? Why aren’t you helping?
http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus Carl Draper
I just use a separate tray notifier, i use Googsystray
Anonymous
kdocker works perfectly for me :)
kdocker -q -d 20 evolution –component=mail &
(edit: note, despite the name, it doesn’t require KDE libs)

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LZMU3KHIFO2YVD7DSVQNL7QK7M Mark
The PPA did not work. I installed it, ran ‘update’ and the Update Mgr. returned: Not all updates can be installed.

http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/7GXJ4CL5A6A5YPPUO47UQXGP5Y Johan
Are you sure you’re using Gnome 3?

http://anaershadowynomaly.deviantart.com Farran Lee
I’m using Gnome 3, and whilst I haven’t added this ppa, I get the same message as @yahoo-LZMU3KHIFO2YVD7DSVQNL7QK7M:disqus , and can’t install all the updated packages from the gnome3 ppa.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_22QG7ELE27JRJUJTO2HWPVAAKI John Navarro
Be careful, with this repository you do not get the updated Exchange MAPI or RSS files.
Anonymous
Natty?
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/C6S22ANL35LHAH27EX43XFQKTQ Klau3
200% to much padding

Dmitry Shachnev
It’s a theme issue (Adwaita). DX team are preparing light-themes Gtk+3 port which will look as good as it does now.
BTW, Evolution 3 is already available in 11.10 repos.

http://www.facebook.com/john.t.folden John T. Folden
I think it’s hilarious that people are calling Evolution ‘ugly’ when the alternative is the abominably retro looking Thunderbird.

http://jackyalcine.co.cc Jacky Alcine
It IS ulgy, though.
Anonymous
Thunderbird 3 is beautiful on Ubuntu

http://www.facebook.com/john.t.folden John T. Folden
TB is marginal looking on OS X… it looks about 15 years old on *nix and Windows.

http://profiles.google.com/tumbes2000 Christian Andrade
Have they said whether thunderbird will be the new default in 11.10 yet or is evolution 3.0 what we have to look forward too?

http://tomslominski.net/ Tom Slominski
That’s good. Maybe I’ll come back to a desktop e-mail client. The only things missing in Evolution now is amazing sync with Google services (the current one feels pretty shabby).

http://profiles.google.com/tumbes2000 Christian Andrade
Both have their faults. I have issues using thunderbird with my imap accounts, especially saving emails to the sent folder. Yet evolution’s good sync is terrible and am usually living through my phone and xoom
http://twitter.com/kmetamorphosis Bertel King, Jr.
I’m syncing both my email and my calendars with Google using Evolution 3.0 in Fedora right now. I don’t know if you’re referring to the 2.x version of Evolution or what, but it’s currently working just fine for me.

http://tomslominski.net/ Tom Slominski
Good, I’ll try it out next time I’m using F15 :)

Kenneth Fossum
What about support for Exchange 2010 (not imap, but mapi or web connect)?

http://twitter.com/john_hamelink John Hamelink
I’m dying for this functionality right now :(

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A2L7JBCER2GFGR6CHCDGYGYTQA Adam
http://git.gnome.org/evolution-ews/

http://www.facebook.com/tlejeune3 Tom LeJeune
I like evolution but having multiple windows for the same program annoys me. Why not use tabs? When I click on a contact, i get a new window. When i read or write an e-mail, i get a new window. One program, One window. Stop cluttering my desktop. That is the one reason I like Opera.

http://www.facebook.com/john.t.folden John T. Folden
Use it in express mode: evolution –express

http://www.facebook.com/tlejeune3 Tom LeJeune
Thanks john. Didn’t know about that. Big improvement. Its a little faster too, but i dont think you can access your calendar or any other feature evolution has in express mode.

http://twitter.com/kmetamorphosis Bertel King, Jr.
I have the exact opposite set of preferences. I hate when an app crams everything into one window, because I generally find it cluttered. I hate preview panels in e-mail clients, but I do agree that tabs are nice.

Anonymous
If you compare this to the kinds of apps Microsoft and Apple are pushing out its no wonder why were still at 1%…

http://alaukik.myopenid.com/ Alaukik
1% is a factoid .
http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus Carl Draper
Outlook is a bag of phallii

Anonymous
and this isn’t?

Anonymous
If you compare this to the kinds of apps Microsoft and Apple are pushing out its no wonder why were still at 1%…
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=685198112 Makoy Magalong
How I wish we can close it to the tray soon. I like Thunderbird and it’s my default, but Evolution is lighter on the RAM. Plus the GNOME3 memory leak :(
http://www.facebook.com/Bharat.Mhaskar Bharat Mhaskar
Hey I am Ubuntu (Unity) user and by mistake added that ppa and updated the system… I want to rever it back how do I do it.

http://twitter.com/cyrildz cyrildz
just use : sudo ppa-purge *your ppa source to remove*
ofcourse, you need to install ppa-purge first if you don’t have it

http://www.facebook.com/Bharat.Mhaskar Bharat Mhaskar
Thanks, it worked.

http://twitter.com/cyrildz cyrildz
Glad I have helped you…. the first time I helped someone here !!! :)
http://twitter.com/cyrildz cyrildz
Glad I have helped you…. the first time I helped someone here !!! :)

http://www.facebook.com/Bharat.Mhaskar Bharat Mhaskar
Thanks, it worked.
http://www.facebook.com/Bharat.Mhaskar Bharat Mhaskar
Thanks, it worked.
http://www.facebook.com/Bharat.Mhaskar Bharat Mhaskar
Thanks, it worked.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_32DPCAROUO6SDVWZFHTXW2EFUY John Smoth
Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?That sounds preposterous to me.If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer from start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.

kenjite kenjite
Nothing better than a hot buttered troll roll for breakfast.
daas88
lol
Joern Konopka
Where i come from we call this “Gefährliches Halbwissen”…
http://twitter.com/iPoesc Franz Pös…
Not possible. Only this Microsoft trash is, nothing else. Micro$oft is somewhat a god-like creature which no one dares to rival.
You’re funny guy. Following your assumptions, I couldn’t be using my computer at the moment. Micro$oft free zone ftw!
Do something good for you and start searching the Wikipedia for Linux and Ubuntu and destroy your “Gefährliches Halbwissen” this way!
House Of Pleasure
Oh noes my laptop has microsofts.
Donald Lush
I’m writing this on a computer that only has Ubuntu 11.04 and nothing else. No other software. I prefer Ubuntu to Windows – prettier, more reliable, easier to use.
http://twitter.com/john_hamelink John Hamelink
I liked this because it was so hilariously wrong.
http://twitter.com/john_hamelink John Hamelink
I liked this because it was so hilariously wrong.
http://jackyalcine.co.cc Jacky Alcine
Yo, lol, I don’t ever say this but you’re really a fool. Like oh man, I feel bad for your offspring.
Yi Sun-sin
Last week, you wrote :
« why dont they give the option of a net install like debian has? its just
a 8mb iso that you boot into and then down load the OS while
installing. »
So, even if anyone was fooled by your oh-so-obvious troll, I should have fixed it :D.
Anonymous
Hmm.. and the above comment has 3 likes.
Apple didn’t move to MS–they have a full OS. Ubuntu (and any other major linux distro) is a full OS too; when you run Ubuntu, you are not running one single part of Windows. None of it appeared overnight either, or was made by a single company.
Wait, am I feeding a troll?

Angela Gilhotra
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww :P
Anonymous
Adwaita ugliest theme ever.
Gnome3 incompatibility with old themes is very bad idea.
It will take years to convert old themes to gtk3.

Yi Sun-sin
Actually, if someone manage to create a GTK engine that can load theme made for the previous engine, it would make old theme compatible.
Actually, one popular theme, Murrine, is supposed to have been ported (see http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2010/10/14/murrine-and-ubuntus-light-themes-ported-to-gtk-30-with-a-ppa/ ).
So, after installing the GTK3 engine, every Murrine-using theme should look exactly the same on GTK2 and GTK3 apps, normally.
http://profiles.google.com/bielski.mariusz Mariusz Bielski
I like this theme, and after improving paddings I like it a lot. It needs few changes here and there, but after Elementary, it’s the best looking default theme so far…

House Of Pleasure
What’s wrong with gmail? btw… is there a webkit based prism kind of app?

http://openid.berk.es/berkes Bèr Kessels
For many people there are many things wrong with gmail. I, for one, despise the idea that big G watches my events, searches my mail and indexes my contacts.
http://openid.berk.es/berkes Bèr Kessels
For many people there are many things wrong with gmail. I, for one, despise the idea that big G watches my events, searches my mail and indexes my contacts.

House Of Pleasure
What’s wrong with gmail? btw… is there a webkit based prism kind of app?
http://www.hollywoodrounder.blogspot.com Mark_in_Hollywood
Sadly, again following Mr. Sneddon’s post OMG Ubuntu, I have blown up my OS. I do like OMG! , but I must never follow a post here again. I do like the post from the fellow who says the Evol can be run from an .iso and urge you to include that information in your future posts. Thanks for reading, etc.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=514741434 David James Weatherall
i put this on without realising it was for Gnome 3.. i know very stupid, but i purged the PPA, and now i still cant install it?
this is the screenshot i get?

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