Comments on: Canonical licenses H.264 – Theora out for the count? [Updated] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=canonical-licenses-h-264-%25e2%2580%2593-theora-out-for-the-count-updated Everything Ubuntu. Daily. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: beats for salehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-20284 beats for sale Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:48:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-20284 vs8 thanks for the link vs8 thanks for the link

]]> By: Utushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11926 Utus Thu, 13 May 2010 06:27:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11926 Sure! Talk about later in... let's see, a couple of releases. Let see about their developers and maintainers. They will beg to get back to Debian project. Sure! Talk about later in… let’s see, a couple of releases. Let see about their developers and maintainers. They will beg to get back to Debian project.

]]> By: RZhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11469 RZ Fri, 07 May 2010 09:27:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11469 I quite agree.. for 1 billion people who watch a video, there may be just a couple of folks who would want to edit, create and playing with codecs. Ubuntu is for all of us -human beings- Thanks Canonical to be a wise and modern company! I quite agree.. for 1 billion people who watch a video, there may be just a couple of folks who would want to edit, create and playing with codecs. Ubuntu is for all of us -human beings- Thanks Canonical to be a wise and modern company!

]]> By: Harno Ranaivohttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11279 Harno Ranaivo Wed, 05 May 2010 06:20:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11279 And what about x264 ? Is h.264 more efficient than x264 (and that would be the reason why Canonical licenses h.264) ? And what about x264 ? Is h.264 more efficient than x264 (and that would be the reason why Canonical licenses h.264) ?

]]> By: Harno Ranaivohttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11278 Harno Ranaivo Wed, 05 May 2010 06:15:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11278 As far as I know, even though you can install restricted-extras for free, they are not allowed to include it for free. You have to install them by yourself, if they were to be distributed included with Ubuntu, someone would have to pay (canonical, and/or the user). It's one of the differences between the Mandriva versions, the sold one includes mp3 and such things. As far as I know, even though you can install restricted-extras for free, they are not allowed to include it for free. You have to install them by yourself, if they were to be distributed included with Ubuntu, someone would have to pay (canonical, and/or the user).
It’s one of the differences between the Mandriva versions, the sold one includes mp3 and such things.

]]> By: Yfrwlfhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11276 Yfrwlf Wed, 05 May 2010 05:06:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11276 You're right, they should use it but not pay them money for it, that would be a better resistance. :D You’re right, they should use it but not pay them money for it, that would be a better resistance. :D

]]> By: anon e moosehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11275 anon e moose Wed, 05 May 2010 05:00:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11275 "Apple is especially is bad here, since H.264 is their IP"That's rather an exaggeration. There are over 1000 patents in the H.264 patent pool. A single one of those patents belongs to Apple. “Apple is especially is bad here, since H.264 is their IP”

That’s rather an exaggeration. There are over 1000 patents in the H.264 patent pool. A single one of those patents belongs to Apple.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11274 Anonymous Wed, 05 May 2010 04:47:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11274 I hope this article sheds some light in the issue:http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/know-your-rights-h-264-patent-licensing-and-you/EDIT: More stuff @ OSnews http://www.osnews.com/story/23236/Why_Our_Civilization_s_Video_Art_and_Culture_is_Threatened_by_the_MPEG-LA I hope this article sheds some light in the issue:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/know-your-rights-h-264-patent-licensing-and-you/

EDIT: More stuff @ OSnews
http://www.osnews.com/story/23236/Why_Our_Civilization_s_Video_Art_and_Culture_is_Threatened_by_the_MPEG-LA

]]> By: pthttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11270 pt Wed, 05 May 2010 02:51:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11270 They havben't won Google controls youtube, they can assert their power by only showing Videos using VP8. Youtube was a great strategic buy for them. They havben’t won Google controls youtube, they can assert their power by only showing Videos using VP8.
Youtube was a great strategic buy for them.

]]> By: Merkhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11268 Merk Wed, 05 May 2010 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11268 While I agree that software patent laws are stupid (in the US anyway). I don't see how Canonical not supporting h.264 would be fighting the laws While I agree that software patent laws are stupid (in the US anyway). I don’t see how Canonical not supporting h.264 would be fighting the laws

]]> By: Bob Hazardhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11267 Bob Hazard Wed, 05 May 2010 01:28:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11267 I agree that they mostly have the same decoding chips, which is why they all seem to support RMVB, noone would go to the expense of adding that but it seems to come along with the chipI don't know where you shop but it is common consensus that it is harder to find ogg hardware support than not. I agree that they mostly have the same decoding chips, which is why they all seem to support RMVB, noone would go to the expense of adding that but it seems to come along with the chip

I don’t know where you shop but it is common consensus that it is harder to find ogg hardware support than not.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11265 Anonymous Wed, 05 May 2010 01:01:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11265 Yes Theora is inferior but it's a little pointless when Google are about to release a free one that easilyy rivals it. (The current Theora was old, that the only real reason it was behind.) h264 hasn't won yet. If he must, licence it when it's over, when they have already won. At least then they don't really lose cred. Yes Theora is inferior but it’s a little pointless when Google are about to release a free one that easilyy rivals it. (The current Theora was old, that the only real reason it was behind.)
h264 hasn’t won yet. If he must, licence it when it’s over, when they have already won. At least then they don’t really lose cred.

]]> By: Yfrwlfhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11264 Yfrwlf Wed, 05 May 2010 00:58:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11264 I believe I stand for everyone with a brain everywhere when I say: screw patents, and up yours patent laws, especially those of the software/math/stupid variety.Canonical should be helping to fight them, not encourage them. I believe I stand for everyone with a brain everywhere when I say: screw patents, and up yours patent laws, especially those of the software/math/stupid variety.

Canonical should be helping to fight them, not encourage them.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11263 Anonymous Wed, 05 May 2010 00:55:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11263 Except that Ubuntu promotes Free and Open Source software. It doesn't bode well for Linux that they are supporting non-free codecs. Come on, this is like Novell paying Microsoft to leave them alone. I think it's ok that they are creating Moonlight - they felt they had to, but paying MSFT just makes it look bad for the rest of Linux distros - it wasn't a choice they could make while not affecting other distros.Google releasing V8 neutralizes the need for h264. It hasn't won yet. Except that Ubuntu promotes Free and Open Source software. It doesn’t bode well for Linux that they are supporting non-free codecs. Come on, this is like Novell paying Microsoft to leave them alone. I think it’s ok that they are creating Moonlight – they felt they had to, but paying MSFT just makes it look bad for the rest of Linux distros – it wasn’t a choice they could make while not affecting other distros.

Google releasing V8 neutralizes the need for h264. It hasn’t won yet.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11262 Anonymous Wed, 05 May 2010 00:48:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11262 GPL-type licences are freedom. BSD-type licences are absolute freedom. There are pluses and minuses to using either. Please don't be as ignorant as Apple fans. GPL-type licences are freedom. BSD-type licences are absolute freedom. There are pluses and minuses to using either. Please don’t be as ignorant as Apple fans.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11258 Anonymous Tue, 04 May 2010 22:41:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11258 1 word: Youtube. End of "war of formats", with H.264 having lost... 1 word: Youtube. End of “war of formats”, with H.264 having lost…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11234 Anonymous Tue, 04 May 2010 20:06:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11234 Doesn't seem like a smart move if that's the reason, lol Doesn’t seem like a smart move if that’s the reason, lol

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11233 Anonymous Tue, 04 May 2010 20:05:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11233 Sry, I meant "I can understand". Sry, I meant “I can understand”.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11225 Anonymous Tue, 04 May 2010 19:16:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11225 Everyone's definition is different. I know I won't be paying crap. I don't create, edit etc. I just consume media like most people.I play mp3s and DVDs without paying anyway. Everyone’s definition is different. I know I won’t be paying crap. I don’t create, edit etc. I just consume media like most people.

I play mp3s and DVDs without paying anyway.

]]> By: Ryan Petershttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11217 Ryan Peters Tue, 04 May 2010 18:29:00 +0000 http://www.omgubuntu.dreamhosters.com/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h-264-%e2%80%93-theora-out-for-the-count-updated/#comment-11217 Your definition of "better internet experience" probably isn't the same as mine then. H.264 is very, very restrictive. People can watch videos made with the codec because of this deal, but they still cannot edit, create, or sell videos in that codec without the explicit permission of the MPEG-LA. Once everybody is using the codec (we're almost there unfortunately) then we'll be paying license fees and patent fees left and right for doing *anything* with the codec. To me, that does not sound like a better internet experience at all. Your definition of “better internet experience” probably isn’t the same as mine then. H.264 is very, very restrictive. People can watch videos made with the codec because of this deal, but they still cannot edit, create, or sell videos in that codec without the explicit permission of the MPEG-LA. Once everybody is using the codec (we’re almost there unfortunately) then we’ll be paying license fees and patent fees left and right for doing *anything* with the codec. To me, that does not sound like a better internet experience at all.

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