Fewer Games To Be Included In Ubuntu Lucid Lynx

UDS Wednesday kicked off with a super interesting session; a meeting entitled “Application selection in the default install“. 


Over three posts I’ll present the main ideas and discussions from these meetings: Whittling the default
game selection down, removing GIMP from default
installs & what best to use for photo-editing and the decision to potentially include PiTiVi as a default application in
Lucid Lynx…



Remember that nothing is final and decisions may change over the course of the development cycle.


Gnome Games

Game selection. Can we choose fewer, better games by default, especially ones that include a social component?”

This was the ‘topic’ for the first part of the sessions. Not much to report other than: -

  • gBrainy, Solitaire and Sudoku to most certainly be included by default
  • Gnome-Games meta package to be removed and ‘single’ games from it installed instead.
  • Tetris highly desired to stay installed by default
  • Talk of installing ‘on-line games’ as menu entries. Idea soon nixed.
  • Frozen Bubble was a game a lot wanted installed but it will take up too much space on the Ubuntu CD.
  • Gnome-Games re-written in clutter were proposed, but some hardware has issues with clutter meaning this isn’t the best move.
  • “Mines” will certainly no-longer appear; the game is decidedly “windows 95″ and out-dated.
  • Other games suggested (but not decided on) include Atomix, Hearts and various others from the Gnome Games selection.

    The biggest factor in choosing (or not choosing) games is based on
    their size. An Ubuntu LiveCD has to fit on a 700mb CD and room is at a
    premium.


    Social side of the coin
    A lot of talk was centered around the idea of making games “social”;
    creating or adding mulit-player elements, preferably over
    telepathy/empathy. After all – who wouldn’t love to challenge their
    friends to a game of Chess or Tetris in Ubuntu?!

    Despite many games having multilayer elements, the aim is to hopefully transition these to use the telepathy framework.

    Two games were singled out for this: Chess and Sudoku. Tetrinet was also mooted, as you can’t have a games selection without some form of Tetris!

    Thoughts

    No formal or final decision has yet been agreed on, and we’ll likely
    see a bit of back-and-forth with some games over the course of the
    Lucid development cycle.

    With that said, the idea to reduce the number of games – and offer a
    more interesting variety of games – is a sound one. How many of you
    play every game installed? I certainly don’t. In fact they’re one of the first things i remove on a default install.

    I’m please the “one-package” install of 10 gnome-games is being split
    up. Not everyone wants 3 or 4 card games installed; it was frustrating
    to those who just wanted one or two gnome-games but had no choice but
    to have all 10 installed.

    What games do you think should be nuked or be saved?

    Related posts:

    1. Random Gnome-Games News, Tips and Tweaks.
    2. Lucid Lynx: What We Know So Far
    3. Lucid Lynx Release Schedule
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    • Anonymous

      Which is the game that has black and white peices, and you can “take” their circles by placing two of yours at either end of their row? Is it Reversi? (I’m on Windows in Uni at the mo). That’s insanely hard, and I wouldn’t mind seeing that disappear :P

    • Anonymous

      I’d like them to leave Sudoku, Tetris, Mahjongg, Same Gnome and Solitaire. And they may add Gweled (Bejeweled-like game) and Monkey Bubble (same as Frozen Bubble, usess much less space).

    • Wouter

      I would like to see PyChess replacing the currently included chess game (glchess). It already includes solid multiplayer support. Integrating telepathy would probably be achievable within the Lucid cycle.

    • http://orkutcidio.deliriocoletivo.org Peterson Espaçoporto

      I loved the idea of splitting gnome-games into single games. It was indeed very frustrating to have all of them installed.

      And, well, such a shame I’ll have to install mines on my own =/ I love it.

    • Anonymous

      Definitely keep Gnometris in for Lucid.

    • Gorlock

      WTF? Mines is my favorite game on the default Ubuntu games menu.

    • http://itbcn8world.spaces.live.com itbcn8

      I think some of the Gnome games look ugly… Noone wants to play hearts or other card games with feet on the back… Make them sexyer games! Humanity style :)

      • daas88

        I’ve always thought the same. I think the only thing i hate about gnome is the feet everywhere xD

      • Mohan

        Yeah I know, it’s time to leave those behind and embrace newer, nicer looking ones.

    • Anonymous

      Definitively agree on splitting the games package

    • Mine sweeper

      Don’t remove mines!

    • tibike

      interesting. mahjongg is my favorite

    • http://danielsouzat.wordpress.com/ Daniel de Souza Telles

      Quantz and lbreakout are my favorites. A clone of bomberman will be great.

    • http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ Stefano F. (tacone)

      There’s no point in taking cheap games and make them communicate over telepathy just for the sake of it.

      If they need multiplayer games they should chooose existing ones. Teeworlds is a good example.

    • Ben

      Nooo! Mines!

    • irie

      I don’t like the fact that if I try to remove 1 game, Synaptic will uninstall the entire desktop. I don’t play the games. Give me an option.

      • Ben

        It won’t.

        I just tried to uninstall Mines, and it wanted to remove the gnome-games package. This is a metapackage. It contains nothing, it merely depends on all the packages that provide the default suite of games. I actually removed that package, and everything’s still there.

        Metapackages are used to make it easier to get a large collection of software. If you install the kubuntu-desktop package, for instance, you will get the entire KDE desktop, with all the bits Kubuntu throws in, as well as their splash theme and KDM (debconf will ask you which to use). The metapackage depends on all these bits, but the actual functional packages do not. They will remain if you remove any of the smaller bits and take out kubuntu-desktop.

        • Anonymous

          I think if you use the Ubuntu Software Center you can add and remove single gnome games without affecting the others.

          • Ben

            It probably still gets rid of the gnome-games package, but just doesn’t tell you (or maybe it knows that this won’t affect any other software it knows/cares about).

    • http://kotbcorp.blogspot.com/ ahmed kotb

      DONT REMOVE MINES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      I’m glad to see that the developers are making some room in an intelligent manner now.

      Bitter about GIMP? ME? Nah.